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Arm or Leg Swelling After Cancer

Arm and Leg Swelling After Cancer

Generally, I don't include medical information pages in this particular blog. But this page (or variation) is on many of my blogs and it is by far the most popular page anyplace it is located. it is obvious then, that there are significant numbers of people searching for this type of information and I thought, perhaps it might be good to include here here as well. (Nov. 17, 2008)

With the advent of better and more effective cancer treatments, the survival rate for all cancers has risen dramatically. With this progress, a new and often misunderstood and misdiagnosed complication has arisen.

Many cancer survivors , having overcome cancer, find themselves with sudden and often unexplained swelling, usually of the arms or of the legs.

This swelling occurs because of one of several factors.

First, the swelling begins after lymph nodes have been removed for cancer biopsies.

Second, the swelling may start as a result of radiation damage to either the lymph nodes and/or the lymph system.


Due to either the removal of lymph nodes or damage to the lymph system, your body is no longer able to rid itself of excess fluids. The fluids collect in the limbs effected and swelling beings.

This swelling is called lymphedema. The swelling that occurs is permanent, and while it is not curable it is treatable.

Permanent Leg or Arm Swelling

**** In the situation of any permanent leg swelling whether the cause is known or unknown, the diagnoses of lymphedema must be considered ****

There are several groups of people who experience leg or arm swelling from known causes, but it doesn't go away or unknown causes where the swelling can actually get worse as time goes by.

Group One

This group includes those who have had the injuries, infections, insect bites, trauma to the leg, surgeries or reaction to a medication. When this swelling does not go away, and becomes permanent it is called secondary lymphedema.

Group Two

Another extremely large group that experiences permanent leg or arm swelling are cancer patients, people who are morbidly obese, or those with the condition called lepedema. What causes the swelling to remain permanent is that the lymph system has been so damaged that it can no longer operate normally in removing the body's waste fluid.

In cancer patients this is the result of either removal of the lymph nodes for cancer biopsy, radiation damage to the lymph system, or damage from tumor/cancer surgeries.

This is also referred to as secondary lymphedema.

Group Three

Group three consists of people who have leg or arm swelling from seemingly unknown reasons. There may be no injury, no cancer, no trauma, but for some reason the leg simply is swollen all the time.

The swelling may start at birth, it may begin at puberty, or may begin in the 3rd, 4th or even 5th decade of life or sometimes later.

This type of leg or arm swelling is called primary lymphedema. It can be caused by a genetic defect, malformation or damage to the lymph system while in the womb or at birth or be part of another birth condition that also effects the lymph system.

This is an extremely serious medical condition that must be diagnosed early, and treated quickly so as to avoid painful, debilitating and even life threatening complications. Treatment should NOT include the use of diuretics.

What is Lymphedema?

Lymphedema is defined simply as an accumulation of excessive protein rich fluid in the tissues of the leg. The accumulation of fluid causes the permanent swelling caused by a defective lymph system.

A conservative estimate is that there may be 1-2 million people in the United States with some form of primary lymphedema and two to three million with secondary lymphedema.

What are the symptoms of Lymphedema?

If you are an at risk person for arm lymphedema there are early warning signs you should be aware of. If you experience any or several of these symptoms, you should immediately make your physician aware of them.

1.) Unexplained aching, hurting or pain in the arm

2.) Experiencing "fleeting lymphedema." This is where the limb may swell, even slightly, then return to normal. This may be a precursor to full blown arm lymphedema.

3.) Localized swelling of any area. Sometimes lymphedema may start as swelling in one area, for example the hand, or between the elbow and hand. This is an indication of early lymphatic malfunction.

4.) Any arm inflammation, redness or infection.

5.) You may experience a feeling of tightness, heaviness or weakness of the arm.

How is Lymphedema Treated?

The preferred treatment today is decongestive therapy. The forms of therapy are complete decongestive therapy (CDT) or manual decongestive therapy (MDT), there are variances, but most involve these two type of treatment.

It is a form of massage therapy where the leg is very gently massaged to actually move the fluid out of the leg and into an area where the lymph system still functions normally.

With these massage treatments, swelling is reduced and then the patient is fitted with a pre-measured custom pressure garment to keep the swelling down and/or is taught to use compression wraps to maintain the leg size.

What are some of the complications of lymphedema?

1. Infections such as cellulitis, lymphangitis, erysipelas. This is due not only to the large accumulation of fluid, but it is well documented that lymphodemous limbs are localized immuno-deficient.

2. Draining wounds that leak lymphorrea which is very caustic to surrounding skin tissue and acts as a port of entry for infections.

3. Increased pain as a result of the compression of nerves usually caused by the development of fibrosis and increased build up of fluids.

4. Loss of Function due to the swelling and limb changes.

5. Depression - Psychological coping as a result of the disfigurement and debilitating effect of lymphedema.

6. Deep venous thrombosis again as a result of the pressure of the swelling and fibrosis against the vascular system. Also, can happen as a result of cellulitis, lymphangitis and infections.

7. Sepsis, Gangrene are possibilities as a result of the infections.

8. Possible amputation of the limb.

9. Pleural effusions may result if the lymphatics in the abdomen or chest are to overwhelmed to clear the lung cavity of fluids.

10. Skin complications such as splitting, plaques, susceptibility to fungus and bacterial infections.

11. Chronic localized inflammations.

Can lymphedema be cured?

No, at the present time there is no cure for lymphedema. But it can be treated and managed and most of the complications can be avoided. Life with lymphedema can still be active and full, with proper treatment, patient education, and patient life style adaptation.

The importance of early diagnosis, treatment and the establishment of a management program can not be stressed enough.

Pat

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My Medical Blogs and Online Support Groups

Many of you know I have a number of blogs. Since AOL closed their groups and blogs, I had to move them to other places. Here is an updated list: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*** My Lymphedema, Lymphatic, Edema, Medical Blogs *** My Life with Lymphedema Frontline personal blog on lymphedema which includes many inspirational articles and writings as well. Find information, support and most importantly hope. Life is not a requiem for that which we can not do, but a celebration for that which we can. http://mylifewithlymphedema.blogspot.com/ Developmental Disorders of the Lymphatics Information and resources for medical conditions relating to the developement of the lymphatic system. Clearing house for peer reviewed information and news. Includes all disorders of lymphatic dysplasia http://lymphsystemdisorders.blogspot.com Edema and Related Medical Conditions Clearinghouse for peer reviewed information and articles relating to edema (swelling) related medical conditions. Includes conditions, causes and treatments http://edemainformation.blogspot.com/ Lymphedemaville - AOL Blog This is about journeying through life with a medical condition called lymphedema. ... What it is, what it is like, what to expect , how to treat the condition, and most important discovering hope in having a rich and wonderful life despite lymphedema. http://lymphedemaville.wordpress.com/ Disorders of the Lymph System Peer reviewed information on disorders relating to the lymph system, lymph nodes and lymph vessels. http://lymphaticdisorders.wordpress.com/ Bacterial Infections Information on all types of bacterial infections. Peer reviewed new and information on causes, prevention and treatments. http://bacteriainfections.blogspot.com Antibiotics Complete guide to antibiotics. Clearinghouse of peer reviewed information on what antibiotics do, what they treat and how they work and most importantly when or when not to use them. http://antibioticinformation.blogspot.com/ Fungal Infections Clearinghouse of peer reviewed news and information on all types of fungal infections. Causes, Symptoms, Treatments and Prevention are covered. http://fungalinfections.wordpress.com/ Cellulitis Clearinghouse for the infection known as cellulitis. Peer reviewed news and information on its causes, treatments, prevention and complications http://cellulitisinfections.blogspot.com/ Trisomy Disorders Peer reviewed information on chromosome disorders. These include Down Syndrome, Turner Syndrome, Klinefelter Syndrome, Prader-Willi syndrome, 22q11 deletion syndrome, Cri-du-chat (cat cry) syndrome, Turner's Syndrome and more. http://trisomydisorders.wordpress.com/ Lipedema Millions of people are afflicted with this almost totally misunderstood and frustrating medical condition. Articles relating to living with lipedema, treatments and other peeer reviewed information. Works in conjunction with our online support group Lipedema http://www.xanga.com/lipedema Lymphangiectasia/Xanga Medical condition caused by the dilation of the lymphatic vessels. Peer reviewed medical information and news with personal stories about how patients can cope with this little understood condition. Works inconjunction with our online support group All About Lymphangiectasia http://www.xanga.com/lymphangiectasia Lymphangiectasia Medical condition caused by the dilation of the lymphatic vessels. Peer reviewed medical information and news with personal stories about how patients can cope with this little understood condition. Works inconjunction with our online support group All About Lymphangiectasia http://lymphangiectasia.blogspot.com/ Lymphedema Another one of our blogs on the medical condition lymphedema. Peer reviewed information on causes, treatments complications and personal accounts of coping with lymphedema http://www.xanga.com/lymphedema Lymphedema Another one of our blogs on the medical condition lymphedema. Peer reviewed information on causes, treatments, complications and personal articles on coping with this little understood noncurable condition http://lymphedemahome.livejournal.com/ MRSA Information Peer reviewed information on the causes, treatments, complications and prevention of this emerging and potentially deadly spreading infection http://mrsainformation.blogspot.com/ Men's Health - Xanga Articles and information relating to a broad spectrum of medical and health issues relating to men. http://www.xanga.com/Mens_Health Alternative Medicine and Lymphedema In this blog, we will explore all the various alternative medicine treatments used or proposed for lymphedema and whether or not they are both effective and save. http://alternativemedicinelymphedema.blog.com/ Cutaneous Lymphoma As a thirteen year survivor of lymphoma, this is of special interest to me. This is a cancer that is increasing in the numbers afflicted with it and until recently not well understood. Peer reviewed information on symptoms, diagnosis, treatments and compInformation and resources for medical conditions relating to the developement of the lymphatic system. Clearing house for peer reviewed information and news http://cutaneouslymphoma.blogspot.com/ Kaposi’s Sarcoma A rapidly emerging form of cancer. Clearinghouse of peer reviewed information on causes, symptoms, treatments, diagnosis and complications. http://kaposissarcomainfo.blogspot.com/ Ovarian Cancer Complete clearinghouse of information relating to ovarian cancer. Our works include, treatments, complications, clinical studies, peer reviewed information. symptoms, diagnoses http://ovariancancerinfo.wordpress.com/ Merkel Cell Cancer Clearinghouse of peer reviewed information on this emerging and rapididly increasing f orm of cancer. Diagnosis, Treatments, Management and complications http://merkelcellcancer.blogspot.com/ Lymphedema of the Leg Information on causes, symptoms, treatments, bandaging, compression garment and complications http://lymphedemaoftheleg.blogspot.com/
*** Our Family of On Line Support Groups *** Advocates for Lymphedema Our frontline online support group for lymphedema. Provides community, support, information and advocacy on behalf of patients from all corners of the globe. This is our most active group with daily posting, exchanges of information and encouragement. Come - join - us - today http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AdvocatesforLymphedema/ Children with Lymphedema A very special support group for children who have lymphedema and their parents. Tremendous source of community, support and information on the day to day care of children with the condition . http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/childrenwithlymphedema/ Men with Lymphedema Support group for men who have lymphedema. Brotherhood, comradere, support and information - a safe place to let the hair down and ask questions and interact. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/menwithlymphedema/ Teens with Lymphedema A special group for teenagers who face difficult issues during their teen years in how to cope with, live with and most important to learn how to live a rich and rewarding life despite having lymphedema http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Teens_with_Lymphedema/ All About Lymphangiectasia Support group for parents, patients, children who suffer from all forms of lymphangiectasia. This condition is caused by dilation of the lymphatics. It can affect the intestinal tract, lungs and other critical body areas. Works inconjunction with our Xanga blog Lymphangiectasia http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/allaboutlymphangiectasia/ Lipedema, Lipodema, Lipoedema Millions of people are afflicted with this almost totally misunderstood and frustrating medical condition. Articles relating to living with lipedema, treatments and other peer reviewed information. Works in conjunction with our online support group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lipedema_lipodema_lipoedema/ Lymphatic Disorders Support Group Works in conjunction with our blogs on Disorders of the Lymph System and Developemental Disorders of the lymph system. All lymphatic conditions included with special emphasis on lymphatic malformations, lymphangiomas, cystic hygromas, Castleman's Disease. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymphaticdisorders/ All About Lymphedema Our frontline Google support group for lymphedema. Information, support, community and help.

http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/All_About_Lymphoedema/

Lymphedema Research A leader in providing peer reviewed research studies and abstracts on lymphedema. http://groups.google.com/group/lymphedemaresearch All About Lymphoedema - Australia Support group for our friends down under with lymphedema. Provides a great sources of information, community and support. http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/All_About_Lymphoedema/ Let's Talk ! Lymphedema patients Group A very close sister site where you can find information and enjoy the pleasure of live chat room visits with other lymphedema people. Founded and managed by Silkie in the UK http://groups.msn.com/LetsTalkLymphedemapatientsGroup/_whatsnew.msnw Pat

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The Quest

FATHER, listen to me; listen to my words and thoughts. . I cry out to you, I pray out loud in your name! . Prayers of sacrifice and praise are my offerings. . And I watch and wait for your word FATHER. . I wait for you to speak to my heart, like a sweet whisper. . You’re not a FATHER who plays games with me. . You give it to me straight from the hip no messing. . I am giving you my full attention, waiting for every new word. . I acknowledge that you’re in charge in my life. . And I know that everything comes from you; only you. . I will not stand in your way FATHER! . May I eagerly watch and seek your will each day. . Thank you FATHER, for choosing me to be a follower of you. . Please hear the prayers that I offer to you; hear my call. . Give me the grace I ask to hear your call in my life. . Then help me to have the humility to walk with you always. . Amen. . New Psalms

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St. Patrick

St. Patrick .

Saint Patrick is believed to have been born in the late fourth century, and is often confused with Palladius, a bishop who was sent by Pope Celestine in 431 to be the first bishop to the Irish believers in Christ.
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Saint Patrick was the patron saint and national apostle of Ireland who is credited with bringing christianity to Ireland. Most of what is known about him comes from his two works, the Confessio, a spiritual autobiography, and his Epistola, a denunciation of British mistreatment of Irish christians. Saint Patrick described himself as a "most humble-minded man, pouring forth a continuous paean of thanks to his Maker for having chosen him as the instrument whereby multitudes who had worshipped idols and unclean things had become the people of God."
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Saint Patrick is most known for driving the snakes from Ireland. It is true there are no snakes in Ireland, but there probably never have been - the island was separated from the rest of the continent at the end of the Ice Age. As in many old pagan religions, serpent symbols were common and often worshipped. Driving the snakes from Ireland was probably symbolic of putting an end to that pagan practice. While not the first to bring christianity to Ireland, it is Patrick who is said to have encountered the Druids at Tara and abolished their pagan rites. The story holds that he converted the warrior chiefs and princes, baptizing them and thousands of their subjects in the "Holy Wells" that still bear this name.

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There are several accounts of Saint Patrick's death. One says that Patrick died at Saul, Downpatrick, Ireland, on March 17, 460 A.D. His jawbone was preserved in a silver shrine and was often requested in times of childbirth, epileptic fits, and as a preservative against the "evil eye." Another account says that St. Patrick ended his days at Glastonbury, England and was buried there. The Chapel of St. Patrick still exists as part of Glastonbury Abbey. Today, many Catholic places of worship all around the world are named after St. Patrick, including cathedrals in New York and Dublin city. (1)

. . Prayer of Saint Patrick I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of the Invocation of the Trinity
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I believe the Trinity
in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.
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I bind to myself today
The virtue of the Incarnation of Christ with His Baptism,
The virtue of His crucifixion with His burial,
The virtue of His Resurrection with His Ascension
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The virtue of His coming on the Judgement Day.
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I bind to myself today
The virtue of the love of seraphim,
In the obedience of angels
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In the hope of resurrection
unto reward,
In prayers of Patriarchs,
In predictions of Prophets,
In preaching of Apostles,
In faith of Confessors,
In purity of holy Virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.
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I bind to myself today
The power of Heaven,
The light of the sun,
The brightness of the moon,
The splendour of fire,
The flashing of lightning,
The swiftness of wind,
The depth of sea,
The stability of earth,
The compactness of rocks.
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I bind to myself today
God's
Power to guide me,
God's
Might to uphold me,
God's
Wisdom to teach me,
God's
Eye to watch over me,
God's
Ear to hear me,
God's
Word to give me speech,
God's
Hand to guide me,
God's
Way to lie before me,
God's
Shield to shelter me,
God's
Host to secure me,
Against the snares of demons,
Against the seductions of vices,
Against the lusts of nature,
Against everyone who meditates injury to me,
Whether far or near,
Whether few or with many.
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I invoke today all these virtues
Against every hostile merciless power
Which may assail my body and my soul,
Against the incantations of false prophets,
Against the black laws of heathenism,
Against the false laws of heresy,
Against the deceits of idolatry,
Against the spells of women, and smiths, and druids,
Against every knowledge that binds the soul of man.
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Christ, protect me today
Against every poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against death-wound,
That I may receive abundant reward.
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Christ with me, Christ before me,
Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ at my right, Christ at my left,
Christ in the fort,
Christ in the chariot seat,
Christ in the poop [deck],
Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks to me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.
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I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of an invocation of the Trinity
,
I believe the Trinity
in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.(2)
. . Short Profile of St. Patrick .

Kidnapped from the British mainland around age 16, and shipped to Ireland as a slave. Sent to the mountains as a shepherd, he spent his time in prayer. After six years of this life, he received had a dream in which he was commanded to return to Britain; seeing it as a sign, he escaped. He studied in several monasteries in Europe. Priest. Bishop. Sent by Pope Saint Celestine to evangelize England, then Ireland, during which his chariot driver was Saint Odran, and Saint Jarlath was one of his spiritual students. In 33 years he effectively converted the Ireland. In the Middle Ages Ireland became known as the Land of Saints, and during the Dark Ages its monasteries were the great repositories of learning in Europe, all a consequence of Patrick's ministry. (3)

. . St. Patrick and St. Patrick's Day

The person who was to become St. Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was born in Wales about AD 385. His given name was Maewyn, and he almost didn't get the job of bishop of Ireland because he lacked the required scholarship.

Far from being a saint, until he was 16, he considered himself a pagan. At that age, he was sold into slavery by a group of Irish marauders that raided his village. During his captivity, he became closer to God.

He escaped from slavery after six years and went to Gaul where he studied in the monastery under St. Germain, bishop of Auxerre for a period of twelve years. During his training he became aware that his calling was to convert the pagans to Christianity.

His wishes were to return to Ireland, to convert the native pagans to Christianity. But his superiors instead appointed St. Palladius. But two years later, Palladius transferred to Scotland. Patrick, having adopted that Christian name earlier, was then appointed as second bishop to Ireland.

Patrick was quite successful at winning converts. And this fact upset the Celtic Druids. Patrick was arrested several times, but escaped each time. He traveled throughout Ireland, establishing monasteries across the country. He also set up schools and churches which would aid him in his conversion of the Irish country to Christianity.

His mission in Ireland lasted for thirty years. After that time, Patrick retired to County Down. He died on March 17 in AD 461. That day has been commemorated as St. Patrick's Day ever since.

Much Irish folklore surrounds St. Patrick's Day. Not much of it is actually substantiated.

Some of this lore includes the belief that Patrick raised people from the dead. He also is said to have given a sermon from a hilltop that drove all the snakes from Ireland. Of course, no snakes were ever native to Ireland, and some people think this is a metaphor for the conversion of the pagans. Though originally a Catholic holy day, St. Patrick's Day has evolved into more of a secular holiday.

One traditional icon of the day is the shamrock. And this stems from a more bona fide Irish tale that tells how Patrick used the three-leafed shamrock to explain the Trinity. He used it in his sermons to represent how the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit could all exist as separate elements of the same entity. His followers adopted the custom of wearing a shamrock on his feast day.

The St. Patrick's Day custom came to America in 1737. That was the first year St. Patrick's Day was publicly celebrated in this country, in Boston.

Today, people celebrate the day with parades, wearing of the green, and drinking beer. One reason St. Patrick's Day might have become so popular is that it takes place just a few days before the first day of spring. One might say it has become the first green of spring. (4)

. . Pat O'Connor 16 March 2007 . . . .

For a more complete biography of Saint Patrick:

Catholic Encylopedia (2)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

(1) http://www.st-patricks-day.com/about_saintpatrick.asp

(3) http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintp01.htm

(4) http://wilstar.com/holidays/patrick.htm

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The Blarney Stone

Kissing the Blarney Stone, Cork, Ireland
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Five miles north west of the small city of Cork is the village of Blarney - its name being derived from the Irish An blarna meaning 'the plain'. Near the village, standing almost 90 feet in height, is the solidly built castle of Blarney. Cormac MacCarthy erected the present castle, the third constructed at the site, in 1446. Built on a rock, above several caves, the tower originally had three storeys. On the top storey, just below the battlements on the parapet, is the world famous Blarney Stone, said to give the gift of eloquence to all who kiss it. Kissing the stone is for some people a difficult physical feat. In past times, to kiss the Stone people were hung by their heels over the edge of the parapet. One day a pilgrim broke from the grasp of his friends and went hurtling downward to certain death. Since that time the stone has been kissed by another method. First, you sit with your back towards the stone and then someone sits upon your legs or firmly holds your feet. Next, leaning far back and downward into the abyss while grasping the iron rails, you lower yourself until your head is even with the stone to be kissed. . Just how long this custom has been practiced or how it originated is not known. One local legend claims that an old women, saved from drowning by a king of Munster, rewarded him with a spell, that if he would kiss a stone on the castle's top, he would gain a speech that would win all to him. It is known, however, when and how the word Blarney entered the English language and the dictionary. During the time of Queen Elizabeth I, Dermot McCarthy, the ruler of the castle, was required to surrender his fortress to the Queen as proof of his loyalty. He said he would be delighted to do so, but something always happened at the last moment to prevent his surrender. His excuses became so frequent and indeed so plausible that the official who had been demanding the castle in the name of the Queen became a joke at the Court. Once, when the eloquent excuses of McCarthy were repeated to the Queen, she said "Odds bodikins, more Blarney talk!" The term Blarney has thus come to mean 'the ability to influence and coax with fair words and soft speech without giving offense'. Echoing the power of the stone, an Irish bard of the early nineteenth century, Francis Sylvester Mahony, wrote:(1) . There is a stone that whoever kisses,
Oh! he never misses to grow eloquent
'Tis he may clamber to a lady's chamber,
Or become a member of parliament.
Francis Sylvester Mahony
. . Blarney Castle was originally a timber hunting lodge built in the 10th century, which was replaced by a stone castle in 1210. The present day castle was completed by Dermot McCarthy, King of Munster in 1446.
Following the Battle of the Boyne in 1690, all Irish chiefs were stripped of their powers and the McCarthys were again forced to leave Blarney Castle. The Castle was sold to Sir James Jefferyes, Governor of Cork in 1703. .
The Castle is now owned and managed by the Trustees of the Blarney Castle Estate. .
The Blarney Stone is a stone set in the wall of the Blarney Castle tower in the Irish village of Blarney. The walls of the castle are 18 feet thick. .
The stone is believed to be half of the Stone of Scone which originally belonged to Scotland.
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Scottish Kings were crowned over the stone, because it was believed to have special
powers. One of the stories says that an old woman cast a spell on the stone to reward a king who had saved her from drowning. Kissing the stone while under the spell gave the king the ability to talk sweetly. He was able to talk anyone into doing things. .
The stone was given to Cormac McCarthy by Robert the Bruce in 1314 in return for his support in a battle.
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Queen Elizabeth I wanted the Irish chiefs to agree to hold their own lands under title from her.
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Cormac Teige McCarthy, the Lord of Blarney, handled her every Royal wish with clever promises keeping loyalty to the Queen without "giving in".
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Elizabeth proclaimed that McCarthy was giving her "a lot of Blarney." This is
how the story began that if you kiss the blarney stone you will also be able to make clever promises. (2) .
. Pat O'Connor . 15 March 2007 . .

(1) http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/ireland/blarney_stone.html

(2) http://www.sparta.k12.il.us/SID/blarneystone.htm

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